Fighting Irish

October 13, 1996

Lou Holtz Sunday Press Conference

JOHN HEISLER: Coach Holtz is here. He will make some opening comments and take some questions.

COACH HOLTZ: I had the opportunity thus far to study the offense; study the defense. I haven't studied the kicking game. The first comment that comes to my mind is we are playing too well on defense to give up as many points as we are giving and that is not the defense's fault. Our kicking game is just putting us in atrocious field position and yet our punter and our place kicker are doing an excellent job. I thought or punt team performed well, but I've got to study it. Our kickoff team, letting the punt bounce and just putting our defense in poor field position. That is unfair to our defense because they are playing far too well. You give up 240 yards and 20 points, that just doesn't mix. The fault is not our defense. The fault is field position that is being supplied by the offense and by the kicking game. Defensively I was very, very impressed. I did not think we could do as well against Washington's offense as what we did. I think that our front 7 played awfully, awfully well. Bert Berry, Renaldo Wynn, Alton Maiden played exceptional ball game as well as Dansby, Minor, Cobbins, Tatum. The biggest improvement was in our secondary. For having been only there a couple of weeks, I thought Deke Cooper played made a lot of plays. He just shows up. He is not very fast, yet he is our sprinter on the punt team. He doesn't look like a great athlete and yet he does the best job of holding up their sprinters on our team. He made the interception. The other individual that really stepped up was Devron Harper. Look at him, I mean, he made some fine plays; competed well, so those two freshman along with Lee Lafayette. Lee Lafayette would have made a major contribution to this football team had he not been injured, so those three freshmen and the secondary are really most encouraging. I thought that Allen Rossum and Ivory Covington played awful, awful well; both tackled well. Benny Guilbeaux played well.

Jarvis Edwards came in played and awful well. I think it was probably the best our secondary has played thus far. And consequently it was just fun to watch our defense play. I think late in the second quarter we had only given up one first down, which was really impressive. Offensively, we played well in all areas. We had more big plays in one game than we probably had the entire year. I felt all receivers played well. I thought our receivers had improved and got some big plays from Shannon Stephens, four of them to be exact, so he shows signs, these last two weeks, of really making some progress. I think one guy that doesn't get enough credit is Cikai Champion. Cikai Champion played very, very hard; blocked awful well. Malcolm Johnson, I think we need to see a little bit more of Bobby Brown and Shannon Stephens on the field. Some people I don't know if Peter Chryplewicz has ever played a better football game since he has been here at Notre Dame as far as blocking. We felt a key match-up was Peter Chryplewicz and whoever was over him. He played awfully, awfully well and he caught the ball well. I think Mike Rosenthal, Mike Doughty, Chryplewicz, and Kaczenski were just an awesome -- I don't know if we have ever had a right side play as well for a whole ball game and as physical as they did. Our entire offensive line played well, but those three in particular.

I think our running backs ran well, and all of them had the chance. We rotated them around - Denson, Farmer and Kinder. And Edwards played well and Jamie Spencer played well and when I am saying "played well," they played well without the ball. I thought Powlus played well and did some things that you just don't teach. I mean, hitting Chryplewicz on the 5 yard line there, third down for the touchdown, it was his third receiver. He just sees things. He ran the ball, and he just -- I'd say what do you want to run, I want to run 24 pow, I want to run 22, they were just really into a good rhythm. I thought some of the younger players, Joey Goodspeed really has a lot of running ability and it was encouraging to see some of the players come to the forefront. I thought Hunter Smith did a nice job kicking. Jim Sanson, we had a PAT blocked without any pressure - we talked to him about it during practice, he is just kicking the ball far too low; not getting it up quick enough. And it wasn't a case where there was penetration where we didn't miss the extra point and there were other ones, the ball just wasn't kicked high enough. He is going to have to work on that. As I said, the disappointing thing was our kickoff coverage; letting the ball bounce on punt returns, which gave then, the fumble and the snap. We fumbled a snap, it was on first down because they were jumping defenses and any time you go on first down, quarterback can't pull out quickly or the center can't afford to be late - I don't know which one it was - but the snap was mishandled and that could have been disastrous. David Quist made two tackles on the goal line which were really critical and that was probably the most encouraging thing was the goal line stand; not only because it really gained back the momentum, but because great defensive teams play well on the goal line and we had two good goal line stances down there which I think that you build on that. I go back and I look at the different things - it was a good win. I didn't know how we would play, but I think Washington is much better than what they showed against us. They obviously did not have a particularly good day. We did. I thought Jarious Jackson came in and in the first two series, he really wasn't in control. Didn't have a leader. I thought the last two times he went in when he moved the ball, he took charge of the team. I mean -- that is what you really want with a quarterback and so that was a good experience for him to have a chance to play four series, I think it was. And as I told him, we were not going to hamstring him when he went into the game; that we would give him a chance to move the football and do different things. But it was a win, and we move on now. Injury-wise, I do not know of any major injuries, but I would imagine Covington, we will have to see about Covington and other bumps and bruises. Kaczenski got hit on the sideline and he could not have gone back into the game, so I am concerned about Kaczenski. I do not know of any other ones at the present time that are serious.

Q. Now that you have played five games, you have had a variety of different types of situations, that come-from-behind win on the road, actually two come-from-behind wins on the road; a loss at home and yesterday a dominating win against a relatively highly ranked team. Do you have a feel yet for the personality of this year's football team?

COACH HOLTZ: You know, Brian, one of the unusual things was going into last week's game. I did not. I -- I couldn't read the football team. I couldn't judge them. The personality of this football team, I think right now is they just really like to play the game. They like to play the game better than any football team I have seen. I am talking about practice and everything else, but they don't -- I don't know how to put this, offensive linemen like to be aggressive. They don't like to pass protect. This football team, I think, just predominantly likes to play the game. Here you have Autry Denson, Farmer and Kinder at tailback and, you know, they practice well. As I said, Kinder and Farmer maybe practiced better than anybody else on our team last week and they played well. They like the game and I cannot ever emphasize the importance of that; you say, well, everybody likes the game. Yeah, everybody likes the game when they are catching the ball and when everything is going well. I am talking about just liking the game, going out to practice. I talked to Cobbins about something because he is a captain and I respect his opinion. I talk to all our captains and I talk to others, other seniors. Every time I say to Cobbins, what do you think about this. He says, all I want to do is graduate and win. He just says I want to play football, win and graduate, nothing else. This team is not into politics. This team isn't into anything except they like to play the game. I think that is how I would characterize it at the present time, Brian - more so than any team that I have ever coached anywhere.

Q. Following up on that, Lou, maybe the polls aside on this question, how good do you think -- I mean, you have been up and down in the rankings, how good do you think this football team is?

COACH HOLTZ: I think this, Brian, I think that we have some awfully good strengths. I think our defensive front 7, as we knew going into the year, was pretty good. We knew that we had pretty good backs, although we put the ball on the ground far too much, but we still played pretty well. I think our offensive line, we felt, would be pretty good. We felt Ron Powlus would be pretty good. The problem we had was secondary and receivers and speed. I think Deke Cooper has helped our secondary. I think Devron Harper has helped our secondary. But I think to lose A'Jani Sanders and have a Benny Guilbeaux -- our secondary is getting better and if they can continue to get better we can be outstanding on defense, but we can't continue to put them in poor field position, but I think that the strength of the defensive line was neutralized until our secondary started coming. The same thing is, offensively, I think that our receivers are starting to come and we are not putting as much pressure on our receivers as what we did earlier in the year. How good are we? I think we are -- I think we are a pretty good football team when we play the way we did yesterday. I don't think we are very good at finessing. I don't think we are very good at fooling people. But are we a great football team? No. Could we become a great football team? Yeah, we are capable of it. But our kicking game has got to get better. We need more speed in our kicking game; particularly in our coverage aspect. That has probably been the most discouraging thing today, has been the way we have fielded punts; not the way we block for them - the way we fielded them, and the way we have covered kickoffs and the turnovers. Those would be the three most discouraging things. And you have got to be able to run the football to be a good football team and I do think that we are not a great running team, but I think we are pretty good. I think we are a solid football team whose weaknesses aren't as glaring today as they were three weeks ago and hopefully they will even become strengths in other three weeks, Brian.

Q. Is there anybody else you might try with field and punts?

COACH HOLTZ: Well, I don't think I have ever had anybody that catches them any better than Autry Denson. And in fairness to Autry Denson, Hunter Smith does not punt in the game the way he punts in practice and -- what is Smith's averaging, 43? But Hunter Smith -- and usually we have our punt team with a back to the camera and that is usually punting downwind. And so Hunter Smith is kicking them 60, 65 yards and we are not used to seeing the 32, 33 yard punt. So number 1, when the ball is kicked, he immediately thinks he is going to have to run back because we keep trying to make him count off the yardage. It is not a question of fielding the ball. He fields the ball better than anybody on our football team and as well as anybody we have had since I have been here at Notre Dame. What he has to do is have enough courage and finally he did step up and caught one yesterday of about 33 yards. That is all he has to do. I think he can field it well, but we just -- we need to understand and when we meet and look, how we are putting our defense and our offense in bad field position by some of the things that we are doing which is self inflicted.

Q. How do you envision lining up at wide receiver this week?

COACH HOLTZ: I think that if you ask me to line up the two right now and I haven't talked to our coaches - split end will probably be Malcolm Johnson with Bobby Brown behind him. And flanker would probably be Mosley or Shannon Stephens with Cikai behind him.

Q. Was Rick just shook up when he got hit on the sidelines or did he get dinged in the head? COACH HOLTZ: What happened is he got hit in the leg and he couldn't go back into the ballgame. It was unfortunate. Our sideline -- and I am at fault as anybody in this world, but our sideline -- I want to tell you, you know, I try to anticipate somebody coming and you look and there is not a lot of room to get out of the way. We don't have a lot of room to begin with, and we dress so many players and it is just very, very difficult and I don't know what happened, but it is one that went in there, Carretta and (inaudible) went over there and they came to me and said he can't go back in. Now I haven't gotten the injury list yet I am hopeful he will be okay but I don't know.

Q. I realize hindsight is 20/20 but the way your team dominated yesterday, do you regret that you didn't have the same game plan against Ohio State two weeks ago, sir?

COACH HOLTZ: Oh, no. I wanted to lose the Ohio State game. (audience laughter). No, Howard, I am just being facetious. The thing that -- knowing what we knew at the time going into Ohio State, Howie, we didn't know the difficulties we had because one of the problems we have on defense, our secondary, and one of the problems we have on offense was our receivers and they were going against one another, but, yes, absolutely, I really think this is what gives us the best chance to win. It gives us a chance to have the most big plays. It gives us a chance to be most consistent. It gives us a chance to fall into a rhythm. Yeah, I think we need to throw the ball a little bit more and obviously will than what we did yesterday. But, yeah, I think this gives us the best chance to win. I don't think there is any doubt, Howie, we are a better football team playing the way we did yesterday than the way we tried to play earlier in the year.

Q. Much was made yesterday about the return of Notre Dame football and you talked about old-fashioned going back to the running game. How big of a role does the tight end position and has the tight end position played since you have been at Notre Dame in that approach?

COACH HOLTZ: Well, the tight end is really critical because he sees so many different looks there and whether you run inside or outside, the tight end is absolutely critical on it and particularly in yesterday's game. You know, the tight end got to be able to catch passes and run routs, etcetera, but he definitely has to be able to block for us. And we ran off-tackle, I don't know how many times, over the tight end and Peter Chryplewicz just did an incredible job. He played as fine a football game as I think we have had a tight end play here, just was outstanding in every phase of the game. And there is no doubt, David, that the tight end is very, very critical to us and we have always had a good tight end and we have a good tight end this year.

Q. Lou, it is becoming apparent from the way things are going around the country this season that a team might be able to win the National Championship with one loss. Is Notre Dame back in that mix and what are your feelings on that situation?

COACH HOLTZ: You know, Bob, I sort of feel that this might be a year where everybody is going to have one loss. I do know this, come January 2nd there will only be one team without a loss. I don't think there will be two. I think that you just have to see what happens. I think the only team that has a shot at Florida is Florida State. Maybe the only team that has a shot with Florida State is Florida, and if Ohio State would have gotten caught by Wisconsin yesterday, maybe, I don't know. I don't see anybody being able to beat Ohio State. You still have Arizona State came back, so maybe they will make it through unscathed, although they play Southern Cal at home this week, that will be interesting. I think that -- it is possible for everybody to end up with one loss, although somebody would have to upset Florida State and Florida State would have to beat Florida; and somebody would have to beat Arizona State and somebody would have to beat Ohio State, but the only thing that we have tried to focus on -- I have never tried to labor this team under any misconceptions that we still with a shot at the National Championship but there is only going to be one team on January 2nd that is unblemished at the most and we aren't going to be one of them, but we can't do anything about that. I felt so bad after the Ohio State game, and it was two weeks ago I was here, and the thing I lamented was I felt I didn't give our players a fair chance. And we really didn't, and so we made up our mind we are going to go back. When I say we didn't give them a fair chance, we ran -- they ran a lot of twists and stunts and amazing, the game plan that Washington University ran was almost identical to the one that Ohio State ran. Almost the same defense, same twist, same stunts. Just we ran more quick hitting plays and did things like that, so it isn't what people do and it isn't what you do on offense. It is the execution of it. We narrowed down what we did and we got a lot of reps on it. So just go from there.

Q. What did Wisconsin do that no one else was able to do to make that game so close and were you surprised about that?

COACH HOLTZ: No. I really want. Bobby Alvarez called me on Thursday and unfortunately, I was putting out some forest fires, not brush fires on Thursday, I didn't get a chance to call him back and I regret that because I usually talk to Barry and Cooper and Skip and some other people, every week they call. But Barry has a very good football team, but Ohio State is a very, very fine football team. I think defensively they are very, very solid. But if you don't make many mistakes and you don't give up many big plays and you keep them backed up, I think you can have some degree of success against Ohio State. I do not think Ohio State is unbeatable anymore than anybody else in the country is unbeatable and yet I have great respect for them, but I just am not surprised, Wisconsin is a pretty good football team. Anything can happen. You know the same team you see one week is not the same team you see the next week. Let us also keep in mind, Ohio State came off of a Notre Dame, Penn State game back-to-back and, you know, maybe they weren't at their best, but you know, let us give credit to Wisconsin and to Ohio State.

Q. (inaudible)

COACH HOLTZ: No. I think he wants to be back there. You come out to practice; you see Hunter Smith boomin. So he used to everything coming off him, whoom, with the wind too; then all of a sudden not used to it coming up on him short, but, he can catch them, he can come up and catch them. He just got to have some confidence and evaluated but I think you make a good point, does he want to be back there. I thought about putting somebody else back there, he wasn't real happy about it, so I just have to assume that he does. This is one thing we have got to address. We can't keep doing this. We are putting our defense in terrible field position and they don't deserve that.

Q. With what you said about finesse, the power game that you showed yesterday, is this the official death of "blarney offense"?

COACH HOLTZ: I think we still try to do some things, no. We still had some one back and split the back out some, not a preponderant amount because we didn't need it, but I think it is what your talent allows you to do. We were going to try to match up our wing back on their linebacker, our tailback on their linebacker, but they did something they had never done before, they went zone on hit when we did that. They didn't stay man-coverage on it, but -- so you just try to take and do what you can do offensively and what can move the football. And I'd like to think that if we can't run the ball that we can do some other things. We can run the option. We can run the short passing game. We can run play action pass, but we aren't going to be as complicated as what we have been. By "complicated," I am saying, too many formations, too many passes, too many things for people to learn to get reps on.

Q. Talking about the freshmen and secondary, forgive me but I don't remember the year, but years ago in mid-season, I think it was after a loss (inaudible)?

COACH HOLTZ: I tell you what had happened, it was Willie Clark and Jeff Burris going down to Tennessee. They played at Tennessee and we won the game. I don't see that happening because right now we have -- Allen Rossum and Ivory Covington are playing awfully well for corners, and I think A'Jani Sanders and Gilbeaux and Jarvis Edwards are good sound players that are going to get better. They are going to have to get better because with A'Jani Sanders who is a freshman eligibility-wise, Gilbeaux is a -- no, he is not. But A'Jani Sanders didn't play at all last year and you got Lee Lafayette who I thought was going to be excellent and Devron Harper and Deke Cooper. I mean, those are four fine, young players, you know, so what I think we are going -- we are going to have a little more depth. We are going to have to start going 5 and 6 defensive backs when we have to, but you want to talk about going from one style offense to the wishbone and next, I mean, geez, talk about us playing one game at the equator and the next one at the south pole. But those young players are really doing well, but I don't anticipate any wholesale changes, but I do anticipate then them becoming more and more involved in it.

Q. (inaudible)

COACH HOLTZ: Coach Moore and I have been together for nine years and I think he is a great coach and an outstanding person. He voices his opinion and I voice mine and you know, talking about pass protection and blockin and things like that, just things in general, we felt -- I didn't realize it was that obvious, but I just want to let the players pick sometimes, but we have been together nine years and he is a great football coach and he is a great human being.

Q. (inaudible)

COACH HOLTZ: Many times if the turnovers were because of ball handling, handoffs, carrying the ball improperly. Our guys carry the ball properly. We also have run into a string where people are really making good hits and the heads are going on the ball which sometimes -- but we just -- it isn't carelessness and it isn't carelessness because if that were the case, you would be dropping the ball on handoffs, etcetera, but it is a case where sometimes you have to have two hands on the ball and that is going to become a necessity for some people.

Q. (inaudible)

COACH HOLTZ: Nothing serious. Just that your last game here might come a little quicker than you think. You don't have two hands on it just about what I said you, running out of the tunnel for the last time, you know, put two hands on it, enough is enough. But he played awful well without the football.

Q. Lou, can you explain a little bit too and what the future holds in terms of your not wearing the head phone and (inaudible)?

COACH HOLTZ: It wasn't something that I had anticipated doing before, but as we got near game time and you know, you had two weeks and I was very well prepared, but I just -- you got to be able to think and you got to be able to go by your gut feeling and as Bob Davie said to me during the game, he says -- boy, he said, when you tell me you have a feeling in your gut and I feel differently, he says I sure don't want to change it, because usually my gut feeling is usually right whether it be I think we ought to do this on offense or -- and during the course of the game, what I found that you can't do things by committee when you have got such a short time. You can't take a popular consensus. So what I decided is that for right now, at that time, that I would not use the headset, but I would have Bob Chmiel right next to me who would tell me everything and they would recommend a play every play, which is their obligation, and -- but I may not take that recommendation, but you catalog it or, you know, you can say, was that man, was that zone, was that three coverage, was that double eagle, was it 31, was it 13, you know, you get that information, but you only get it when you want it. So I just felt that it enabled me to stay in the game a little bit better at the present time and that is all and got a lot of help from upstairs. They did a tremendous job. But we got into a rhythm and getting into a rhythm is as much timing as anything, in other words, the play goes in; you get out of the huddle, you know, you get into a rhythm and we hadn't been into a rhythm on offense all year.

Q. (inaudible)

COACH HOLTZ: Bob Chmiel, I think, got a little tired, but I tell you what - when you don't wear the cord, nobody steps on it. At least, I don't notice they did. When you got that cord, you are always jerking your head and -- but, no, I thought it worked out very, very well because we had great communication with upstairs and downstairs.

Q. One other thing, Barry Alvarez had a week off before Ohio State. Did you talk to him (inaudible) and tell him that maybe the power game works (inaudible)?

COACH HOLTZ: I talked to him about, but I didn't tell him what to do. We talked more about attitude, etcetera, and we exchange ideas. It used to be, for the coaches that always called me, coach, I have got this problem, what do you think. Now they call me and give me advice, but I mean, we exchanged ideas. I think Barry is a very, very special guy and a special coach.

Q. (inaudible)

COACH HOLTZ: No, I just think you make some miscalculations earlier in the year about what we would be able to do talent-wise and I think as the year goes along, you know, our receivers really made great strides the last two weeks, but it might also be because we took less pressure off of them. But, no, I don't look at it that way, just felt this is what we had to do and why I was so mad last time we came in here because I felt that is what we should have done before previously. We aren't going to be able to run that way against everybody. We are going to have to throw the ball much more than we did yesterday, I am sure, as the season unfolds. Okay? Thank you very much.

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